Steady - That's About It

We've been at 45mg of Remeron and 300mg of Neurontin twice a day and things are pretty much the same.  A few words every few days.  Little else.  Still anxious and agitated.  No real conversation or communication.  Still perseverating.

I'm thinking about 2 things. 

1. Going back to check if very low doses of things we have already tried can help.  Specifically Prozac, Seroquel, Effexor and Geodon saw short periods of "awakening" as we either tailed off or built up.
2. Schedule an MRI.  I mean why not?  If there are structural problems in his brain there's nothing we'll be able to do but, I suppose, at least we'll know.

Two Weeks

My son has been on Effexor (2x37.5mg) for about 2 weeks. There is some difference in his behavior but it is slight at best. He sleeps more consistently at night (perhaps too much on weekends) but still not quite all through the night. This is the most most noticeable change. He is still withdrawn and mostly disinterested in anything beyond perseverating. He still has no interest in personal hygiene. He is calmer and attacked only once this week - today in fact and perhaps this was related to sleeping until about 2pm and so missing his morning dose. He is disengaged at school and at home paces and perseverates ceaselessly. He said a handful of words not related to his perseverations in the past week. He spoke to my mother on the phone, said he loved her and told her something else we couldn't decipher (we think it was about death).

Besides somewhat better sleep habits and a calmer disposition, I do not see that Effexor is bringing back my son as he was. It seems to simply be sedating the one we have.

Meeting with a Specialist

My son was in a state (as he has been for the past several days) in which he paced and perseverated endlessly.  The perfect to meet up with a specialist. Full on detached mode, as it were.  At the appointment, attempts were made to converse with my son but with no success.  So we spoke about the situation and I shared my observations.  He pondered my son and was puzzled.  He has seen this sort of behavior before - it's just that he never has seen it develop suddenly. Rather, kids who behave like this have always behaved like this.  The most significant takeaway was that my son was in a state of high anxiety and that was, in his mind, the prevailing and overarching issue.  He said the approach taken thus far was reasonable and what he would have suggested but now is the time to "fish in a different pond" - pharmacologically.  He thinks the SNRI medication is a good place to be although he seemed to prefer Cymbalta to Effexor and was bemused at the pharmacist's reaction to it. 

Although he said he needs to think about the sequence and priority, he suggested the following:

1. Increasing Effexor to at least 150mg/day before abandoning it

2. Trying Remeron

Three Pretty Good Days and then Back to Crap

We experienced three pretty good days Wed, Thu and Fri in which my son was lucid and conversational and engaged.  He woke up Saturday muttering, pacing and non-responsive.  Same today. This certainly sucks.  We have a couple of aggressive and violent outburst but mostly he sleeps when he's not pacing and muttering.

Curious Event ending in Heartbreak

Yesterday my son woke up and was basically lucid.  He was a little low energy but was conversational and engaged.  He went to the orthodontist, had a 50 minute procedure and was cooperative and even happy.  He spent the day doing some chores that he would usually do like feeding the cat, cleaning up after himself, going to the grocery store.  He was on facebook for a while.  He cleaned up his room and put things back in order that he had thrown or discarded in anger over the past few months.  There used to be a lego phone in his room that I had to remove because he smashed it during a tantrum in which he said he was going to call the "notorious teaching aide" and tell her that she's stupid.  While cleaning up his room yesterday, he asked me where the phone was.  I said that I put it away because he was smashing it up.  He said that had no memory of doing that.  He asked that I put it back.  He went to sleep by himself yesterday evening and slept most of the night

 

When he got up this morning, he told me it was too early.  Then he switched over to  talking to himself, pacing and being non-communicative.  One good day.  That's all we have.  I put the lego phone back into hiding.

 

He's been getting the 37.5 mg of Effexor morning and evening.

Restless, Violence then Calm then Babbling

Last night was another night of irritability, aggression and anger.  A frantic call to the doctor led to the conclusion to skip ahead to Effexor twice a day (37.5mg) (usually it is once a day for a week, first).  There was squealing, banging, nakedness and grabbing most of the evening and parts of the night. Literature indicates that Effexor takes about a month to reveal itself as helpful or unhelpful.

He got to sleep in this morning because of an orthodontist appointment.  When he woke up he was communicative and engaged.  He spoke to a neighbor, fed the cat and had a little breakfast even cleaning up after himself.  His orthodontist appointment was quite normal.  He spoke and asked questions.

When we got home, he was OK but began to start muttering and gesticulating after about an hour.  He then tried to take a nap.  I had to go to work but suspect that the degradation has continued.

We see the childhood psychiatric medication specialist on Tuesday.  The likelihood of a miracle is quite small.

Heading to a Dead End?

My son had a sort of rough weekend.  He was mostly non-communicative and often aggressive as we tailed off the Fluvoxamine.  He slept little Saturday night and eventually really fell asleep around 6am.  He awoke at about 2pm on Sunday and was quite lucid and conversational.  He helped himself to food and cleaned up after himself and went on facebook for a while.  This lucidity lasted for a few hours and towards evening, he then regressed to being non-conversational.  He had a few moments of lucidity during the evening and one moment of serious aggression.  He slept OK. 

 

When he woke up, (well, when I woke him up), he was again mostly non-communicative.

 

Because of his late start yesterday, I didn't start him on the Effexor until this morning.  I read on the web that this drug is the chemical equivalent of electroshock therapy and that it is a drug of last resort.  That last bit has me worried.   

Out with Fluvoxamine

We've been tailing off Fluvoxamine and instead we will switch to Effexor.  Looks like the "black box" warning on Cymbalta has led to this reconsideration.  My understanding is that Effexor is like the electro-shock therapy drug.  The last great hope, as it were.  If this does nothing, I don't know what we do.  As usual, whilst tailing off Fluvoxamine, we saw a little bit of lucidity. My son slept restlessly all last night and then at 6am fell asleep for real and woke up around 3pm.  When he arose, we got some conversation and interaction from him. He did a few normal independent person things (ate, made some Quik, colored a bit) but after a couple of hours headed back to muttering and incoherence including screaming and aggressiveness. By my calculations he has between 33% and 10% of the dosage level of Fluvoxamine in his bloodstream.  We'll start the Effexor tomorrow.  37.5mg.